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If anyone wants to talk about this with me kindly use my mail address.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07568040768215280856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-34790872960401542452007-07-05T15:26:00.000+05:302007-07-05T15:26:00.000+05:30@ Sameer - "Ciao - my last post on this and wish y...@ Sameer - <BR/><BR/>"Ciao - my last post on this and wish you all the best with closure on this apparently very-close-to-your-heart issue.<BR/><BR/>I am very glad that this is your last post because apart from time and again confusing yourself with what I have posted you didn't add anything else . Case in point is this "last post " of yours.<BR/><BR/>Conveniently you talk about questioning integrity , blah blah and stop at the point that I was saying AS used Power 1 . Subsequent to the invoice presentation ...see what my responses have been . I think both Venkat and yourself didn't read the comment where I said ..as per the invoice at least during last two month power1 doesn't seem to have been used by AS...<BR/><BR/>I don't know what it is with you talking about below the belt , personal attack whatever ..your entire aim basically here was to come and defend Venkat ..which is absolutely ok but in that process you only turned up with confused posts - like saying - in my last post I have still said AS uses Power 1 . I don't know what you have been reading mate ? Pls read again - I have implied that issue of invoice being definitive proof is all very well but there is nothing to say that Power 1 was not in stock. I did not say they USE it did I ? Even that comment was followed up by the same thing I said about the last two months at leas being very much indicative of power 1 not being used...<BR/><BR/>you ignore all that and trick to pick out stuff which you can use to further post ill composed and confused items digressing from the topic at hand...<BR/><BR/>Most amusing is your last comment on "one doubting thomas" . WTH ! There is no doubt at all ! Its crystal clear what goes on at BAL service centers wrt these engine oils . The only reason why AS became focal and Venkat became very personally invovled was because I told you that AS was also doing this till very recently. And that is a fact. I have been going to AS for quite some time and the only regret I have is that I gave away all the service receipts of my P180 once it was sold . In all the receipts there must have been a line for oil change costing 200plus - which was for Power1 of course. I don't remember it 100% but mostly there was that line about the oil charge and if and when I find a long lost receipt I can show you that this 20W40 thing went on at AS for a while is a fact ..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07568040768215280856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-79187398818894566402007-07-05T06:31:00.000+05:302007-07-05T06:31:00.000+05:30@ttWhile your original query was surely about Cast...@tt<BR/><BR/>While your original query was surely about Castrol being non-proactive for the 20W50 market, at some point you asserted that AS "practices" the use of power1 instead of 20W50. For this you did recieve clarifications that this was done as a necessity, and the next best alternative was considered only as and when required, and that too after some study (I will take the man's word for it, if he says he tested it I have little reason to not believe him).<BR/><BR/>You continue - including in your last comment - to imply that AS does this as a regular practice. I have experienced otherwise - only at points when they have had 20W50 supply issues, have they used alternatives. Venkat too tried clarifying this point by putting his (confidential) business purchases out for all to see (in fact I thot that was pretty extreme). You chose to ignore/not believe all this and the fact that power1 has a much smaller proportion of purchases as compared to 20W50 etc. <BR/><BR/>To respond to which you question the man's motive and integrity!!! I dont know about Venkat, but I would have surely taken offence! You cannot purport to be having a discussion me and start hitting below the belt wrt my business ethics and integrity. Absolutely not on sir. Thats where the discussion gets personal, and the cover of "lets just discuss the oil" is no more valid. There's honestly no discussion left if you're going to doubt everything the other person has to say. <BR/><BR/>One's totally agreeing with all the research you have done - you're right about many of the things you've posted on your blog. <BR/>One's just pointing out that you may have circumstantially been led to believe that there is a practice where the pros may have consciously done it as an exception. For some reason that fact does not agree with you. <BR/><BR/>That's ok - you may have another belief/point of view, but the approach you've taken for the disagreement - questioning one's integrity and ethics to discount the facts the other brings to light - is not one which leaves room for a healthy debate.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I'm not trying to dig/not dig a hole - its not my field and not my debate. I was just stating my experience about the issue - which is at odds to yours (and I have been going to AS since 2003). It also felt a little bad to see a person as straightforward and transparent as Venkat be doubted especially when he's gone to such lengths to "prove" things to one doubting Thomas. Given the army of 'believers' he doesn't need to - but he still did. (I cannot fathom why, but then I'm a different individual).<BR/><BR/>Ciao - my last post on this and wish you all the best with closure on this apparently very-close-to-your-heart issue.sameerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01832302260129482241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-42783217393663575582007-07-05T02:01:00.000+05:302007-07-05T02:01:00.000+05:30"Whilst appreciating your Pro-activeness & ability..."Whilst appreciating your Pro-activeness & ability to question the basics, it would be enlightening to you as well as your friends if you could do the following.<BR/><BR/>Get in touch with people who have dwelled over the years on the Bajaj pulsar group. I am sure they’d be in a position to let you know more about the efforts that were put in. Unfortunately all the info we had in the First few years of the group was all lost when some one hacked the Group & deleted all the info that was stored.<BR/><BR/>May be G.Raj shekar or Ashok Kamath or Sanjay.R could tell you more on who Educated them about oils, what & why etc.<BR/><BR/>It could even be, Dr .A.V.Ravi Kumar who during his annual Visit to Bangalore Picked his Annual quota of the required grade oil for his P-180.<BR/><BR/>Or Any of the members who attended the Chakan’03 meet for whom we carried about 8~10 ltrs of oil in the car which we drove.<BR/><BR/>Or some Mysoreans on the Forum you Patronize, who personally & thro’ their relatives came in to pick the oils from us.<BR/><BR/>Why that far… Please Speak to Sameer & Shuba Shisodia & ask them which oil they carried with them on their Himalayan trip in 2003.<BR/><BR/>Your excitement on your new found knowledge is understandable, but please understand that these are a part of our routines, its more like Been there done that….<BR/><BR/>Alternatively please conduct a Research with the Past Regional Executives of the Business house in question, they might be able to throw up some light on the Pain given to them in the past –Vs- the Pleasure of sales numbers of transacting with us.<BR/><BR/>Or Even the Technical Manager, whose mail you quote & prevail upon, ask him the Pain we gave him recently to find a solution to a lesser known issue which neither our Principles nor their Vendors were able to successfully resolve.<BR/>"<BR/><BR/>Pointless post Venkat . Starters - I didn't get up someday and shout "eureka" I have the knowledge of engine oils . Or I didn't discover something all of a sudden after seeing an apple drop off the tree...there is nothing "new found " in this topic for me except a new found side to you ..<BR/><BR/>You seem to be indicating that I implied ignorance on your part about engine oils . Ignorance implied is not about your knowledge , rather potentially about your awareness that such a thing happens. That much is clear to anybody who reads the thread till date.If I have argued your logic then it is with respect to that test and I still can't agree with it .<BR/><BR/>Basically Auto service decides to do a test on 20W40 and finds that its pretty much within operating range for substitute for a 20W50 ...right ..Castrol are really stupid - they have manufactured a product that is JASO MA certified and SAE rated 20w40 but even Auto Service can show its almost same as 20W50 ..time to restructure SAE procedures and Castrol.?? cmon...<BR/><BR/><BR/>point #2 -<BR/>"In days when we don’t even have to disclose our purchase details to Govt Agencies, I did go that extra mile to show what we purchase & where does it come from. Did not realize that skeptics would always find a way to go on…."<BR/><BR/>I beg your pardon ? Who offered to show up the invoice ? I will show you my ration stocking for last two months consisting of only wheat and barley but who is to say I don't stock three months or rice especially if its in demand ? AS was the case with Power 1 and its still in demand ?<BR/><BR/>Skepticism ? That is when there is a remote chance of an event happening . From the general conditons prevalent in most SC's you can see for yourself that such a scenario is hardly skeptical interpretation - rather more like a very good possibility.<BR/><BR/>You could have let this go when I acknowledged that for last two months your invoices don't show Castrol power 1 as the flavour of the month ? Why the needless flogging of dead-horse ritual ?<BR/><BR/>#3<BR/>"If it was a voice or a platform that you needed to voice your concerns, there are many others, more effective than ours here. These platforms take all your concerns straight onto the desks of the decision makers.<BR/><BR/>The point I would like to reiterate here is, we personally, legally or financially have no interests in others business. In simple plain words “we have no business in others business”. I hope this explains it all."<BR/><BR/>Yes it tells me everything I need to know and what I understand is that when I was making noises about it all this time you were keeping quiet for 18posts to ultimately cap it off saying this is not the "vedike" to voice your concerns. I thought the idea of keeping a blog about auto-service was inclusive of getting feedback from your own customers. What am I doing here ? Trying to tell anyone who listens about this oil issue - why ? Instead of going to all the nice platforms or organisations you refer me to , I brought it here because this is an issue related to both BAL and Castrol and yours being one of the model service stations , your good self being very pro-active in such cases , I thought it would be easier than try and tell Castrol technical staff why Power1 shouldn't be used in a P180....you are their client/business partner whatever you call it in your business circles , so you are a part of the issue ..<BR/><BR/>I will humbly try to think and through observation try to deduce what other good can come of this blog if such issues are thought not relevant enough to be discussed here . Thanks for that . Its an eye-opener. Honest. I had thought different ...<BR/><BR/>#4 . “we have no business in others business”. I hope this explains it all.<BR/><BR/>But this is your business ! You are offering customers servicing of their vehicles. Can you tell me hand on heart that till date - even as recently as say 5 months ago you never used power 1 ?<BR/><BR/>Irony being that I saw this practise at your SS in 2006 and that triggered the thought . We have come full circle with you now saying that its not your business what others are doing ...thats even more ironic considering the article that we are currently posting under is actually an article about Auto Service hosting a service meet of all SCs in Bangy with the final msg from Mr VS himself that he hoped this would improve service quality - "We hope that this event would build Quality Service with in the Authorised Service Channel of Bajaj in Bangalore."<BR/><BR/>. So you hold a meet to discuss common issues yet if I post something -a query - related to that it becomes none of your business ?!<BR/><BR/>".........<BR/>Automotive service industry in India, even by the most conservative of estimates, Exceeds the total Revenue turn over of all the Indian Software majors put together. Please note that 97% of the industry is run by people who are neither Passionate or educated or qualified or trained to do the job they are doing. Personally, if at all I can change some thing in this Industry, I prefer to address even more serious, grave & highly concerning issues than the bottle of Oil."<BR/><BR/>I thought you were one of the remaining 3% Venkat .. gosh ..this has been a day when I realise what a folly it has been to believe in all these things about you . On the face of it a long debate over a can of oil is without a doubt very trivial for even the most geeky but let me point out two things -<BR/><BR/>The initial question I asked was - "..I would like to know how they plan to provide proper rated oil for bikes like P180/200/220 which need a good 20W50 grade oil.....Kindly convey the grievances to concerned dept. !!"<BR/><BR/>If you can be so kind as to spare 15min of your extremely valuable time kindly go through the subsequent responses and conversations between myself and the other posters. IT was not heading anywhere until you jumped in with that "invoice" ... abruptly it ends here with a comment to the effect that you rather not worry about a can oil . Did it take 20 posts to get that out Venkat ?<BR/><BR/># (lost count !)<BR/>"We have always been transparent in all our transactions. In recent times our transactions are visible from the street. Investigative journalism over phone was not called for.<BR/><BR/>If the Men to whom you spoke to had the right resources, they would have been more educated.<BR/><BR/>If they were more educated, they would have<BR/><BR/>1. not have to live out of the meager income this industry gives them<BR/>2. been in a better position to understand the circumstances that they were being used to.<BR/><BR/>Please …. They are soft & many times mute people, who put their soul into their jobs &…<BR/>"<BR/><BR/>I am not writing a piece of article for the times of India or some kind of "investigative journal" .<BR/>I am a customer of BAL and I am having every right to know what kind of oil you are using in my bike . I repeat - I have the RIGHT to know what kind of service I am being given . Because you say you are very transparent what is your problem if I call up and confirm what is going on ? I have posted what they told me and also mentioned they were probably not up to date ..what is wrong with that ? Its a fact ? I am not dissing them .. you asked me wat it was about and I told you what they told me ? Its paranoid to think that everytime somebody says something about Auto Service there is a hidden veneer to it and you take it personally ..all the time venkat...all the time.Pls refrain from preaching me about human qualities of those gentlemen or anybody in general. That is not a issue under discussion neither was it called for and more than you will ever know , I am sure they know who respects them and I know who they respect.<BR/><BR/>Neither Babu nor Jai Kumar were anything more than points of information ...irrespective of other attributes you are keen to point out .<BR/><BR/>By your lights , I am supposed to think about the background of a personnel before I ask him something and consider it a fact ??<BR/><BR/>I respect their job , they know it and reciprocate it .<BR/>By quoting their problems you seem to imply I am blaming them - if that was ever the impression in any of my posts - that is the ONLY heartfelt regret since that is not true . I was posting verbatim what was said to me.<BR/><BR/>**<BR/>"<BR/>External sources forces can’t change a person or an Idea or a thought. Only internal awakening can. We very well know what we’re up to & do the same to satisfy our selves."<BR/><BR/>Another classic Venkat moment - Sir ..respectfully ..please does that sentence have anything to do at all with what we have been talking about so far ? What is that external infleunce , internal awakening philosophy for ??? i am "zapped" to quote yourself.. :D<BR/><BR/>That person will soon post a comment about how he experienced the same problem ..and I was imploring him to do that ASAP...all the external influence , hypothesis is ...unbelievably too hifi..for me ..sorry thats just incoherent .<BR/><BR/>****<BR/>"<BR/>A few weeks ago a Friend told me that I was doing too much of thankless & non profit jobs. He even suggested that I focus a little bit more on myself. May be he was suggesting a breakdown this sort.<BR/><BR/>BTW Thanks for #1, It is indeed a “Treasured Certificate for Merit” more so for doing some thing honestly."<BR/><BR/>Again I will not talk about your personal , profit , non profit stuff. Venkat , sincerely , the problem is you mix personal and professional stuff all of a sudden . I am talking purely about BAL , Castrol , Power 1 and suddenly you are posting stuff about your own strenuous, non profit , unselfish etc etc work that you do and suggesting you probably should be taking another look at it . That is your prerogative and from any of the widest point you look at this argument , it is unrelated...<BR/><BR/>Finally Venkat , there are many things about Auto Service which are right . And there will be many more things that are definitely going to make it stay as a model SC as it had been long adjudged..but nothing is perfect dear ..so when I say something , nay , someone makes an observation about the SC / BAL / your line of work , even with your deep rooted passion and lineage , there is absolutely no reason for you to take it upon yourself to be the talismanic character to defend everything about it<BR/><BR/>If you were indeed so nonchalant about my query ..the rot could have stopped at the point before you flashed that "invoice" ... I have only given responses to each of the consequent posts ..<BR/><BR/>You are the prized asset of the company, mate , and I had never doubted or do doubt the potential of the SC but it is a separate entity from yourself and you could really do with having that distinction so that when I say something about the SC , I don't have to expect many other things that are not directly related to the SC.<BR/><BR/>Cya around.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07568040768215280856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-49993706895244734912007-07-05T01:56:00.000+05:302007-07-05T01:56:00.000+05:30@ Sameer - " I'm sure the use of power1 by AS folk...@ Sameer - <BR/><BR/>" I'm sure the use of power1 by AS folks was a studied decision taken in a situation with no better alternatives. The bikes would've needed to be serviced and run anyhow, 20W50 or no 20W50, right ?" <BR/><BR/>This is again going back into a past episode about which you know "ZILCH" . But since you have poked into the pond , let me show you the depth of the murk ...<BR/><BR/>Test conducted by AS on Power 1 - I don't care what you are SURE of unless you were PART of the test . I was NOT part of the test . I am basing all my comments on what VENKAT told me and he WAS part of the test. The circumstances leading to used of Power 1 out of lack of availability of alternatives is what you are alluding to . And you unwittingly dug your own pit by posing that as a question to me since this is exactly what I asked in my very first post - "If Castrol reps were there explaining their support to BAL I would like to know how they plan to provide proper rated oil for bikes like P180/200/220 which need a good 20W50 grade oil and not power 1 which despite being semi synth is just 15W40."<BR/><BR/>See ? At that point the question was why Castrol were not providing the right oil ? It was not implicating AS with any wrongdoing as you have conveniently alluded to in this question.<BR/><BR/>" Its almost amusing to read your assumptions about the lack of knowledge or understanding on the part of pros in the industry.<BR/>.......<BR/>..........Only, please do not discount the work others may have, before and independently of your effort, and make what ends up sounding like professionally disparaging remarks."<BR/><BR/>Industry : Technology <BR/><BR/>That has quite a wide range of definitions . It might be you are a CTO of a company or a engineer . A layman is better advised than to put words into anothers mouth. Why do you do that despite being the techie ? <BR/><BR/>I am not assuming anything . Am I assuming they are using 20W40 ? Am I imagining they are using HP racer 4 ? Have I explicitly told them that they don't know what they are doing . I am asking questions and I would like answers .<BR/><BR/> Once again you didn't read the post carefully . The posts question why such and such oil is being and doesn't focus on the understanding or lack of it among the industry people.The post asks why you are using this oil and doesnt ask them if they have any understanding of the oil or doesn't try to educate Venkat about oils.<BR/><BR/> The only thing lacking among the industry - deliberately or otherwise is ability to acknowledge it as in this case.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07568040768215280856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-49633169774543020192007-07-05T01:36:00.000+05:302007-07-05T01:36:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07568040768215280856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-29549014314345809672007-07-04T23:59:00.000+05:302007-07-04T23:59:00.000+05:30[ somethng went wrong with the comment - reposting...[ somethng went wrong with the comment - reposting ]<BR/>@ tt<BR/><BR/>I can personally vouch for the fact that Auto Service (and Venkat) have appreciated the differences of and used the right grade of oil for my bike (P180) - and in fact educated me about it since I knew zilch on that.<BR/><BR/>In Aug 03 before we started out on our Ladakh trip, Venkat personally took the decision of adding to our additional supplies, a half litre bottle of 20W50 "since it might not be easily available elsewhere, unlike 20W40, which may also be used in a crunch, but make sure you don't overheat the bike".<BR/><BR/>I'm sure the use of power1 by AS folks was a studied decision taken in a situation with no better alternatives. The bikes would've needed to be serviced and run anyhow, 20W50 or no 20W50, right ?<BR/><BR/>Its almost amusing to read your assumptions about the lack of knowledge or understanding on the part of pros in the industry.<BR/><BR/>At the same time, I admire your perseverance and effort you've spent on researching this topic in great detail! Only, please do not discount the work others may have, before and independently of your effort, and make what ends up sounding like professionally disparaging remarks.sameerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01832302260129482241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-13006673108588949192007-07-04T23:56:00.000+05:302007-07-04T23:56:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.sameerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01832302260129482241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-83036967074741025.post-77350695983929523432007-07-04T23:02:00.000+05:302007-07-04T23:02:00.000+05:30#1. "Knowing you , I am sure you would have addres...#1. "Knowing you , I am sure you would have addressed the issue as soon as I posted it here and that is very much in line with your practises." <BR/><BR/>#2. "but molly coddling the truth doesn't help so the facts are laid bare here in my posts."<BR/><BR/>ANS #1. “first para means that I would expect you to address any such irregularities immediately ..coz you were instrumental in that stupid p200 fork prob...something you said about devils advocate ?? basically I would like to think that ever since the first day I told you about this you might have made note of this and made the necessary changes so that Auto service is not doing such things. And your invoices show you are not using Power1 much so the case against Auto service can't be argued for last two months at least...”<BR/><BR/>ANS#2. “Second one was in response to your very well worded suggestion about using words properly. The meaning was that I was tired of trying to put it in any other way other than the bare facts.”<BR/><BR/>Whilst appreciating your Pro-activeness & ability to question the basics, it would be enlightening to you as well as your friends if you could do the following.<BR/><BR/>Get in touch with people who have dwelled over the years on the Bajaj pulsar group. I am sure they’d be in a position to let you know more about the efforts that were put in. Unfortunately all the info we had in the First few years of the group was all lost when some one hacked the Group & deleted all the info that was stored. <BR/><BR/>May be G.Raj shekar or Ashok Kamath or Sanjay.R could tell you more on who Educated them about oils, what & why etc. <BR/><BR/>It could even be, Dr .A.V.Ravi Kumar who during his annual Visit to Bangalore Picked his Annual quota of the required grade oil for his P-180. <BR/><BR/>Or Any of the members who attended the Chakan’03 meet for whom we carried about 8~10 ltrs of oil in the car which we drove.<BR/><BR/>Or some Mysoreans on the Forum you Patronize, who personally & thro’ their relatives came in to pick the oils from us. <BR/><BR/>Why that far… Please Speak to Sameer & Shuba Shisodia & ask them which oil they carried with them on their Himalayan trip in 2003.<BR/> <BR/>Your excitement on your new found knowledge is understandable, but please understand that these are a part of our routines, its more like Been there done that….<BR/><BR/> Alternatively please conduct a Research with the Past Regional Executives of the Business house in question, they might be able to throw up some light on the Pain given to them in the past –Vs- the Pleasure of sales numbers of transacting with us. <BR/><BR/>Or Even the Technical Manager, whose mail you quote & prevail upon, ask him the Pain we gave him recently to find a solution to a lesser known issue which neither our Principles nor their Vendors were able to successfully resolve.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>#3. “I went through the invoice and it only shows that you have purchased a lot of the barrel oil . Its logical to think that you would only stock to some extent and such routine sourcing points to regular use of the oil but I am still skeptical. Reason being that this has been the case since a long time and despite that , 180+ were serviced with Power 1 .”<BR/><BR/>In days when we don’t even have to disclose our purchase details to Govt Agencies, I did go that extra mile to show what we purchase & where does it come from. Did not realize that skeptics would always find a way to go on….<BR/> <BR/>#4. “finally since my aim of bringing it to the notice of the ppl who should be concerned - customers like me , professionals like you has been achieved I said that I hope you can agree that this is a prob - if not at auto service then at least in other places - since you have already seen posts by hitanshu - and other members have posted on forums but not posting here - dunno why . I had asked for a comment here ..by them.So maybe you can try to raise this issue at some other meet or something to maybe get a standardisation in oils used - ?”<BR/><BR/>If it was a voice or a platform that you needed to voice your concerns, there are many others, more effective than ours here. These platforms take all your concerns straight onto the desks of the decision makers.<BR/><BR/>The point I would like to reiterate here is, we personally, legally or financially have no interests in others business. In simple plain words “we have no business in others business”. I hope this explains it all.<BR/><BR/>Automotive service industry in India, even by the most conservative of estimates, Exceeds the total Revenue turn over of all the Indian Software majors put together. Please note that 97% of the industry is run by people who are neither Passionate or educated or qualified or trained to do the job they are doing. Personally, if at all I can change some thing in this Industry, I prefer to address even more serious, grave & highly concerning issues than the bottle of Oil.<BR/><BR/>#5. “comment on jai kumar and harish babu - harish babu was first person I called yday he told me power 1 is being used. Then I called Jai kumar he told me power 1 is not being used for reasons he doesn't know .Its still available if they want but you are not using it he said . Dunno if he meant available as in stock at your place or available from dealer.<BR/>He was still saying it is 20W50 - and I reminded him again its only 15W40. Hence the conflicting answers - of course later on babu called me and clarified that he had not understood the qossion and that they were not using Power 1 . I believe he must have checked with your personnel and realised it ...anyway since he is not hands onmin engine oil dept.. I didn't take it seriosuly - which is why I had called jai kumar again .”<BR/><BR/>We have always been transparent in all our transactions. In recent times our transactions are visible from the street. Investigative journalism over phone was not called for.<BR/><BR/>If the Men to whom you spoke to had the right resources, they would have been more educated.<BR/><BR/>If they were more educated, they would have <BR/><BR/>1. not have to live out of the meager income this industry gives them<BR/>2. been in a better position to understand the circumstances that they were being used to.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Please …. They are soft & many times mute people, who put their soul into their jobs &…<BR/><BR/>#6. You guys have no idea how timely this incident is ..I have been trying to convince Venkat Shyam that such things do happen . Venkat Shyam is the owner of the famous M/s Auto Service in Bangalore - the best in the business here . <BR/><BR/>Auto Service also used Power 1 till recently . <BR/>Venkat Shyam has a blog - www.auto-service.blogspot.com <BR/>Currently in the comments section of the new article - <BR/>http://auto-service.blogspot.com/200...e-service.html<BR/><BR/>I am trying to convince Venkat about this prob . I would greatly appreciate if fast&furious can post this incident as a comment there. Pls take into consideration how useful this will be since Venkat is highly respected in BAL circles and he was instrumental in getting all recalls of the p200 forks..which were of the old design.<BR/><BR/><BR/>External sources forces can’t change a person or an Idea or a thought. Only internal awakening can. We very well know what we’re up to & do the same to satisfy our selves.<BR/><BR/>A few weeks ago a Friend told me that I was doing too much of thankless & non profit jobs. He even suggested that I focus a little bit more on myself. May be he was suggesting a breakdown this sort. <BR/><BR/>BTW Thanks for #1, It is indeed a “Treasured Certificate for Merit” more so for doing some thing honestly.Venkat Shyamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11556297570942220137noreply@blogger.com